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dgreco
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 Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: Coaches Poll 2/2 |
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these seem to not get posted to often, so I thought I would post
1 1 Mountain State University (W.Va.) (12) 23-0 312
2 3 Oklahoma Baptist University 18-1 298
3 4 Biola University (Calif.) 20-1 296
4 2 Concordia University (Calif.) 19-2 276
5 5 Louisiana State University-Shreveport 19-2 273
6 6 Southern Nazarene University (Okla.) 17-4 267
7 7 McKendree University (Ill.) 17-5 245
8 8 Southern Polytechnic State University (Ga.) 18-2 241
9 9 Campbellsville University (Ky.) 16-5 233
10 11 Westminster College (Utah) 16-5 214
11 13 Central Methodist University (Mo.) 17-5 198
12 10 Texas Wesleyan University 16-5 194
13 16 Olivet Nazarene University (Ill.) 15-6 190
14 15 Union University (Tenn.) 16-6 186
15 14 Pikeville College (Ky.) 18-2 185
16 17 Oklahoma Christian University 16-4 147
17 RV Azusa Pacific University (Calif.) 15-6 129
18 21 Tougaloo College (Miss.) 16-3 127
19 18 Georgetown College (Ky.) 15-5 125
20 12 Belhaven University (Miss.) 17-4 120
21 19 Montana State University-Northern 17-6 117
22 23 Lee University (Tenn.) 16-6 107
23 RV Freed-Hardeman University (Tenn.) 13-7 84
24 24 Park University (Mo.) 14-7 52
25 RV The Master's College (Calif.) 14-7 49
Others receiving votes:
William Jewell College (Mo.) 48; Robert Morris University (Ill.) 34; University of Montana Western 31; Trevecca Nazarene University (Tenn.) 23; Mid-America Christian University (Okla.) 21; Emmanuel College (Ga.) 18; Lindsey Wilson College (Ky.) 13; Oklahoma City University 12; William Carey University (Miss.) 11; Evangel University (Mo.) 8; Fresno Pacific University (Calif.) 8; Life University (Ga.) 7; Texas College 5; Saint Xavier University (Ill.) 4; University of the Cumberlands (Ky.) 1; Westmont College (Calif.) 1; MidAmerica Nazarene University (Kan.) 1; Lambuth University (Tenn.) 1; John Brown University (Ark.) 1; Our Lady of the Lake University (Texas) 1; Mid-Continent University (Ky.) 1[/b] |
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Swoosh
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| Robert Morris is getting votes at all? What a joke. Tells you that coaches doing the rankings don't do any research. Cambellsville seems high and McKendree. Union seems low and Azusa jumps too many to 17. Azusa 15-6 jumps over Tougaloo at 16-3 with good wins. |
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atborth
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:07 am Post subject: |
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APU plays in the GSAC and Tougaloo in the GCAC, plus APU had rattled off 7 straight, including Concordia on the road. However, with APU's loss to Master's they will fall, nothing to worry about there.
Also keep in mind who APU has lost to in the NAIA:
#25 Masters twice
#1 Mt. State
#4 Concordia (also have a win @ Concordia)
#3 Biola
That is a pretty good resume so far.
Tougaloo's losses:
#5 LSUS
#23 FHU
Unranked Spring Hill |
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A good resume??? It's a resume full of losses. You're a moral victory kind of guy, aren't you? I would rather look at who a team beat rather than who they lost to. APU has no wins over ranked teams and two over receiving votes teams. Tougaloo has wins over the 20th and 23rd ranked team and two over receiving votes teams who both have more votes than APU's "best" win. So who has the more impressive resume?? Score for me again....that's 3 in a row.
And nice comparison on conferences. The GCAC sucks so bad that there is no way their champion could take down the GSAC champ. Oh wait, it happened last year in KC. And by this same Tougaloo team that doesn't have the strong losses that APU does.
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A good resume??? It's a resume full of losses. You're a moral victory kind of guy, aren't you? I would rather look at who a team beat rather than who they lost to. APU has no wins over ranked teams and two over receiving votes teams. Tougaloo has wins over the 20th and 23rd ranked team and two over receiving votes teams who both have more votes than APU's "best" win. So who has the more impressive resume?? Score for me again....that's 3 in a row.
And nice comparison on conferences. The GCAC sucks so bad that there is no way their champion could take down the GSAC champ. Oh wait, it happened last year in KC. And by this same Tougaloo team that doesn't have the strong losses that APU does. |
Um, APU beat Concordia last week.
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My bad. I guess that's a pretty good win. Just trying to stick up for the GCAC (apparently not very well). Cuz no way in hell will I be able to stick up for the Red River next year.
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| My bad. I guess that's a pretty good win. Just trying to stick up for the GCAC (apparently not very well). Cuz no way in hell will I be able to stick up for the Red River next year. |
I think LSUS vs. Tx Wes will be good for the Red River and the NAIA. Throw in a 3rd or 4th competitive team from time to time and you have a respectable conference.
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Yea. Maybe. Our Lady of the Lake could be that third team. They own home wins over LSUS and TWU this year. We shall see.
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A good resume??? It's a resume full of losses. You're a moral victory kind of guy, aren't you? I would rather look at who a team beat rather than who they lost to. APU has no wins over ranked teams and two over receiving votes teams. Tougaloo has wins over the 20th and 23rd ranked team and two over receiving votes teams who both have more votes than APU's "best" win. So who has the more impressive resume?? Score for me again....that's 3 in a row.
And nice comparison on conferences. The GCAC sucks so bad that there is no way their champion could take down the GSAC champ. Oh wait, it happened last year in KC. And by this same Tougaloo team that doesn't have the strong losses that APU does. |
Take a look at Massey to see APU's resume:
They have played the toughest schedule in the NAIA with losses to #1Mountain State, #3 Biola, #4 Concordia, #25 Masters and highly ranked D2 Mesa State (17-1 record)...only three of their losses are without MULTIPLE starters out.
Good wins include:
18-2 Concordia (away)
14-6 Westmont
16-6 Fresno (away...fresno's only loss at home in 2 years)
17-6 Calgary
14-8 CBU (away)
12-5 Occidental
16-7 Evergreen St.
19-4 Embry-Riddle
5-1 road record in the GSAC (tied for best in conference)
When they get healthy they should finish strong.
Tougaloo has the 60th best schedule are far fewer quality wins than APU. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:27 pm Post subject: RRAC |
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| LSUS will be huge for the RRAC they are one of the top programs every year along with TWU. You have some other teams also that are really good such as Our lady of the Lakes and Texas College is as dangerous as any team in the naia right now. So the RRAC will be a good conference. |
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A good resume??? It's a resume full of losses. You're a moral victory kind of guy, aren't you? I would rather look at who a team beat rather than who they lost to. APU has no wins over ranked teams and two over receiving votes teams. Tougaloo has wins over the 20th and 23rd ranked team and two over receiving votes teams who both have more votes than APU's "best" win. So who has the more impressive resume?? Score for me again....that's 3 in a row.
And nice comparison on conferences. The GCAC sucks so bad that there is no way their champion could take down the GSAC champ. Oh wait, it happened last year in KC. And by this same Tougaloo team that doesn't have the strong losses that APU does. |
Take a look at Massey to see APU's resume:
They have played the toughest schedule in the NAIA with losses to #1Mountain State, #3 Biola, #4 Concordia, #25 Masters and highly ranked D2 Mesa State (17-1 record)...only three of their losses are without MULTIPLE starters out.
Good wins include:
18-2 Concordia (away)
14-6 Westmont
16-6 Fresno (away...fresno's only loss at home in 2 years)
17-6 Calgary
14-8 CBU (away)
12-5 Occidental
16-7 Evergreen St.
19-4 Embry-Riddle
5-1 road record in the GSAC (tied for best in conference)
When they get healthy they should finish strong.
Tougaloo has the 60th best schedule are far fewer quality wins than APU. |
Nice work with the APU schedule. Have to give a team credit for trying to play tough teams. They have also played multiple games without their best post player Reggie Owens, including the last 3 in a row, and continue to chug along toward yet another 20+ win season and a KC berth.
Cal Baptist is also an extremely tough home team over the last few years, but APU has beaten them there 3 years in a row, including this year. They've only lost a couple other home games the last couple years but APU seems to have their number. Didn't realize Fresno was so good up there, but it makes that win much more impressive.
And winning at Concordia cannot be overlooked or brushed aside. CUI has been a brutally difficult home team the last 4 years. They are 55-4 the last 4 years at home, including the APU win last week. Two of their three losses besides APU were also in OT. So, 1 regulation home loss besides that one to APU in the last 4 years. Winning there deserves a lot of credit in the rankings.
Also, who dat, APU beat LSUS 2 years in a row in KC, so how 'bout you use that when you are talking about APU and the GCAC instead of including a 3rd party team like Fresno?
APU might be punished for losing to the Masters (which seems to have their number the last few years for some reason), but they rebounded with a 2-OT win over Cal Baptist tonight so I'd expect them to stay in the rankings maybe a couple spots lower than they are. This is still a very hot team that has won 8 of 9 in one of the top conferences. |
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who dat
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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ow. i defend tougaloo and they make me look like a moron (which, arguably, i am). so scratch it, score one for you guys (although, when posting "resumes", bragging about losses is pretty stupid). the boxscores look like they are missing a couple of big guys right now. well, the pilot train keeps rolling. they got a big win at xavier tonight. as for the red river, we shall see. going to take the next 36 hours off from my naia watching, cuz its WHO DAT time!!!!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!
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| Robert Morris is getting votes at all? What a joke. Tells you that coaches doing the rankings don't do any research. Cambellsville seems high and McKendree. Union seems low and Azusa jumps too many to 17. Azusa 15-6 jumps over Tougaloo at 16-3 with good wins. |
I would think that the raters would give Union a little more respect in the polls. They are now 18-6, 9-1 in conference, convincing wins over TNU, Freed, MCC and Martin Methodist. Non conference wins over ranked opponents include Campbellsville, Mckendree, Belhaven and William Carey. How do you justify putting them that low. Hopefully, Freed and Union will climb in the polls this week and set the stage for a great showdown in Jackson on Saturday. |
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